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greatest flood to be accepted by orthodox science may be the deluge of 14,000
years ago[†] in the Altai Mountains of southern
"It was an event that's
very hard to describe- because nothing comparable has ever been seen by people,"
says Victor Baker, a geologist at the University of Arizona. "It's the largest
flood we can document in the fossil record." At its height, he says, the
water may have been 1,500 feet deep, racing along the Chuja River valley at 90
miles an hour.
Baker had been working with Alexey
Rudoy, a Siberian geologist, who had argued for years that only massive flooding
could have formed the oddly rippled terrain and giant bars of gravel found in
the Chuja Valley and nearby regions - not glaciers, as was commonly believed.
"Near the end of the last ice
age, they say, a glacier crawled out of a valley perpendicular to the Chuja Valley
and cut across the latter, effectively damming it and creating a lake nearly 3,000
feet deep that held 200 cubic miles of water. Eventually that ice dam broke the
lake either burst through the dam or lifted the entire glacier. Water rushed into
the narrow river valley at the rate of 640 million cubic feet per second, in a
deluge that probably lasted several days."
Chuja Valley flood was just the largest of numerous ice-age inundations, says
Baker. "Even the English Channel has been attributed by some to late-glacial
catastrophic flood erosion," he says, "though it hasn't been proven."
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in North America:
The Missoula Floods,
16,000-14,000 years ago (Pleistocene)
Did you know
that the largest floods to occur on the planet happened here? During the last
ice age, ice sheets covered much of Canada. One lobe of ice grew southward, blocking
the Clark Fork Valley in Idaho. This 2,000 foot (600 meters) high ice dam blocked
the river, creating a lake that stretched for hundreds of miles. When the lake
was full, it contained 600 cubic miles (2,500 cubic kilometers) of water. How
much is that? Imagine a block of water a mile high (as high as the mountains around
Bonneville Dam), a miles wide, and stretching from Bonneville Dam to San Francisco!
Eventually, water traveled under the ice dam. The
water drained out of the lake in two or three days, flooding
eastern Washington. The flood, moving up to sixty miles per hour, scoured
out hundreds of miles of canyons called coulees, created the largest waterfall
to ever exist, and left 300 foot (90 meter) high gravel bars. At Bonneville, the
water crested at 650 feet (200 meters). If you look on the cliffs southeast of
the dam, you will see a transmission tower (the one with three poles) that is
200 feet (60 meters) above the high water mark.
a period of 2,500 years as many as 100 of these floods scoured the Gorge.
source of this information is from a page at a U.S.
Government website. It details the (orthodox) geologic history of the Columbia
River Gorge. Like the Siberian flood, scientists describe a glacier that blocks
a valley and creates a dam. However the trapped water does not freeze, it slowly
builds up then bursts through the barrier of ice. This is apparently the only
non-catastrophic, gradual situation they can think of!
to the catastrophic floods, albeit 12-40 million years prior, this district was
also host to a spectacular amount of volcanic activity. They state that 41,000
cubic miles (170,000 cubic kilometres) of lava spread to cover large parts of
Oregon and Washington. This is enough to cover the entire continental USA with
at least 12 metres of lava!! Elsewhere, sections of lava
in the Columbia River area have been estimated to be 3,500 metres thick!!
we were to disregard the dating of these events, then we have two obvious after-effects
of a pole shift, one occurring directly on top of the other.
event as catastrophic as a pole shift would undoubtedly create an increase in
volcanic activity. In fact, I suspect that every volcano along the “line of most
movement” would have exploded. Evidence of past lava flows indicate that our
current level of volcanic activity is very low, a mere whimper. In my opinion,
there has been a gradual decline of activity over the last 10,000 years, as the
earth’s crust has settled into its new position, and the volcanoes have slowly
A shift of the crust would require some
stretching and contracting due to the equatorial bulge. Any section of the crust
that moved into the area of the equator would have to stretch to accommodate the
bulge. On the other side of the equator, where section of the crust were moving
away, there would be contraction. Distortions of this magnitude would give us
the “fire” element so often part of the flood myths – volcanoes.
"In Arizona, New Mexico and southern California there
are very fresh looking volcanic formations. The lava flow in the valley of the
San Jose River in New Mexico is so fresh that it lends support to Indian traditions
of a “river of fire” in this locality."
thousand years ago, volcanoes were active everywhere. Listed here are the active
areas of the southern hemisphere:
S. Ant. Peninsula
Marie Byrd Land
– Mato Grasso
northern hemisphere covers pretty much everywhere except Europe.
we can see, Chile alone had more active volcanoes back then, than the 500 the
entire globe has today. Volcanoes are so sensitive that we can assume the majority
of them would erupt during a pole shift situation. Our atmosphere would be filled
with dust and the sun would effectively disappear from view for a few years.
An example of this is the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883 – this single volcano lowered
the mean earth temperature by about 1ºC for several years, and many parts
of the world lost an entire growing season. With hundreds of volcanoes erupting
at once our planet would be plunged into winter, with the new poles freezing over
The amount of dust in the air, and corresponding
lack of sunlight caused by a pole shift is unpredictable, but even a layman can
guess that it would be many, many times more severe than the explosion of Krakatoa.
A number of doomsday researchers have pointed out how the dust would create a
tragic, incredibly cold period. However, the severity may well be offset in part
by the carbon dioxide that volcanoes produce. While dust will stop the sun’s
rays from entering our atmosphere, carbon–dioxide will stop heat from escaping,
the much discussed “greenhouse effect”. Carbon dioxide also stimulates plant
growth, but only when there is sunlight as well. The climate following a pole
shift is very difficult to predict. Prepare for anything.
Gases. All magmas contain dissolved gases that are released during and
between eruptive episodes. These gases are predominately steam, followed in abundance
by carbon dioxide, compounds of sulfur and chlorine, and lesser amounts of other
gases. While they rarely reach populated areas in lethal concentrations, sulfur
dioxide can travel downwind and react with the atmosphere to form acid rain that
causes corrosion and a host of other problems. Carbon dioxide is heavier than
air and tends to collect in depressions, such as valleys, where it can occur in
concentrations lethal enough to cause suffocation of people and animals.
In my own travels, during a visit
to mountains in New Zealand, I pondered over why there should be seashells high
upon them. Yes, New Zealand is a relatively new country – supposedly it slowly
rose from the ocean 26 million years ago. But how are these shells, which easily
break beneath my shoes, which I could easily turn into sand, still in one piece
after 26 millions of years? Have they survived earthquakes and weather for such
a terribly long time? Or could the islands of New Zealand have risen only 12,000
Hancock found a similar situation at Lake Titicaca, on the border of Peru and
Though now more
than two miles above sea level, the area around Lake Titicaca is littered with
millions upon millions of fossilized sea shells. This suggests that at some stage
the whole of the Altiplano was forced upwards from the sea-bed, perhaps as part
of the general terrestrial rising that formed South America as a whole…
be in line with orthodox scientists, who believe that this occurred very slowly
100 million years ago. But Hancock points out that many of the fish and crustacea
in the lake are of a salt-water variety, as if they hadn’t had time to evolve
into fresh water types. Indeed this is the only fresh water location on earth
where seahorses live.
The ancient city of Tiahuanaco,
is currently 12 miles distant, and 100 feet higher than the lake. Yet, this city
has ruined docks, which implies that within the civilised history this area was
subject to a major upheaval. It is frightening to think that there are forces
that can shift landscapes two miles vertically, and this may have happened 12,000
years ago in South America.
may have noticed that we haven’t discussed any internal forces that can make the
poles shift – I don’t think there are any. The RB-Effect of James Bowles relies
on the pull of the sun and the moon. I believe the required forces must come
from farther away.
Extra-terrestrial forces are infinite
and mostly unknown. If something out there is capable of tilting the Earth, we
are yet to discover it. But there are a few clues. Global cataclysms have occurred
previously, and presumably will happen again. Any prediction of when must be
based on calculable processes. If the Mayan calendar proves to be prophetic,
then this cosmic disturbance must be a regular and predictable occurrence, not
a random collision or interaction. If evolution is caused by cosmic rays (see
Chapter XX), then they must be a component of the disturbance. And if
humanity manages to survive each cataclysm, the disturbance’s effect must fall
a little short of total annihilation.
And so ends
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Comments from Visitors
I imagine you're aware of the discoveries made by the Greenland Ice Sheet Project II a few years back. According to those ice cores, there was a 15 degree (f) warming that took place quite suddenly, 11,600 years ago. Following the theory that the pole was in Hudson Bay, this would mean that the area of Greenland where the cores were taken would actually move several thousand kilometers closer to the pole. It seems that things tend to get colder when they go that way. The timing of the temperature change is interestingly on target with the theories on this site, but the geography seems off. (this of course is all assuming that ice cores can accurately show us the climate of the past.) Is there an explanation for any of this? forgive me. I am merely a 14-year-old American with limited knowlede of such things.
Interesting number Reeve (11,600 years ago). it was just about 11,600 years ago about when the Vela X supernova was seen on Earth and a very sudden (50 years or so) warming event ended the last Ice Age and marked the start of the present, latest interglacial period, the Holocene age of warm climate and glacial retreat.
- The Abyssinian Highlands, south and southeast of Egypt, called even then Ta-netjer ("God's Land"), is thought by some to be the center of a postulated Sphinx-Giza Civilization. The time also marks the period when the Sphinx was aligned with the constellation of Leo, and this alignment is presently argued by many as providing a timeline for the Sphinx's construction and obvious physical orientation (hotly denied by the classical Egyptologists). Just for discussion's sake one were to provisionally accept a number of these points then there would be a certain consistency to the story that beneath the Sphinx (as presently revealed and confirmed [within the last 3 years by the Egyptian Department of Antiquities], but, officially, unexplored), (and as claimed by Edgar Cayce many years ago) there is a Hall Of Records dating to the time of the great cataclysm that swept over the earth and holding a lot of knowledge. Chambers have been confirmed though in their usual secrecy nothing much has been said publicly and I'm not privy to the appropriate channels. Makes one reflect.
I think it is more likely that a meteor strike, or possibly a near miss, set in motion all these events simultaneously-ice melting, death of the mammoths and other megafuana, and vocano eruptions. But it hit in the deep ocean somewhere, or grazed the atmosphere, and there is no physical evidence of it.
Hope This Helps:
To Site Author: The force that could produce a pole shift is the huge amount of snow and ice precipitated upon the poles!
- Albert Einstein From "The Path of the Pole" by Charles Hapgood stated: " In a polar region there is a continual deposition of ice, which is not symetrically distributed about the pole. The earth"s rotation acts on these unsysmmetrically deposited masses, and produces centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the Earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal momentum produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth"s crust over the rest of the earth's body."
- I, Hope add: If one was really concerned about pole shift, then one would want to reduce the polar ice and snow mass causing the rotational instability. (This reversing process is called reciprocity.)
- I came upon this page searching for the original article on the giant oyster fossils found in the Andes. The "Antiquities" article updating the discovery is suddenly inaccessible. I have found similar "oysters" in the shale beds west of Wapanucka, Oklahoma and was told they were: concretions, fossils, modified concretions and manmade bearings. The ones from the Andes seem to be the best match. Then in a bizarre case of synchronicity I found a Dr.David Campbell, a biologist at a university in Maryland pronouncing them bivalves of some sort. Immediately he was rebutted by various geologists and shell experts claiming they were concretions. I've had the same response to much of my material on anarchaeology.com. Anyway I'm pleased to see all the material I've been researching over the last five years put together in one place. Keep up the good work.
Who can people really trust?
- Which one of you is right?
- I for one, would like this question answered...
- When the poles shift again, where will be the
- safest place to live? What country & area?
- What is your answer based on?
to jessica y - i just made an entry on this on the evidence part one page, but again i beleive that western australia may be the southern area of the pole shift axis, i wont go into details (actually i cant remember many), but this is based on evidence that is prophetic and other evidence that is cultural - perth is the most remote capital city in the world and wa has always been out of synch with the eastern states, they seem to be a little more in line with the americanised world while wa is a little more in line with the new age culture.
I think an asteroid hitting earth might be a good candidate for pole displacement - don't think of its dimensions, think of its enormous speed at the time of impact! I think all current impact studies, movies concentrate on the crater, tsunami's, etc. - and miss the displacement effect altogether. Take a ball (a soccer or volleyball one should do), make it spin (as earth spins on its axis), then gently hit it with your finger: you'll see how rotation axis is easily displaced!
- You may find it interesting to read "when the sky fell" by Rand and Rose Flem-ath
A likely candidate for causing a pole shift is a magnetar. On Dec. 27, 2004, the pulse from a collapsing neutron star 50,000 light years away, impacted Earth. The magnetic field of the Earth "jumped". Google magnetar for more on this amazing event.
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Script by Alex
 Folger, Tim; The Biggest Flood,
Discover, 15:36, January 1994.
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the Earth Nearly Died (1995), p261
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eruptions of Tambora (1815), Krakatau (1883), and Agung (1963), their stratospheric
aerosols, and climatic impact. Quaternary Research 18:127-143. (1982)
 At 1,400 feet (400 meters) altitude
in the Andes Mountains of South America, there are high water surf marks lined
with undecayed seashells.
 Graham Hancock, Fingerprints of the
Gods, 1995, page 67